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Cliff Wagner, PLS, is president of SurveyOne PLLC headquartered in Castle Hayne, N.C.

Opinion: Unlicensed Practice and the Public Trust

March 3, 2009
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Substandard "surveys" hurt our profession. Is there anything we can do about it?

"I have a previous survey," the client indicated as he asked about my pricing. I told him my fee for the job and asked for a copy of the survey when he dropped off the building plans. Not only was the "survey" not created by a surveyor, it was created by an unlicensed technician at one of the local health departments.

Let me be clear: This wasn't a sketch. It was a full-blown boundary survey with bearings and distances, ties to property lines, and proposed building locations. Then the client handed me another map of the same property. This one was prepared by a licensed soil scientist and was even stamped and sealed. I had witnessed two cases of unlicensed practice on one job, and it was not even 8:30 a.m.

In response to this situation and other similar events, I brought the matter up for discussion at our local surveyors’ meeting. The responses from other licensed surveyors did not surprise me. Some surveyors questioned whether preparing these plans could be considered surveying. Others thought that anybody could prepare these plats. Still others thought that several other licensed professionals could legally create these surveys.

I have had this same discussion with surveyors in many different areas of the country. Surveyors often do not know the laws of their state any better than the general public. Sometimes we are so misguided in our lack of knowledge that we voice our mistaken beliefs as law.

In North Carolina, boundary surveys are defined as, "Surveys made to establish or to retrace a boundary line on the ground, or to obtain data for constructing a map or plat showing a boundary line. For the purpose of this Rule the term refers to all surveys, including ‘loan’ or ‘physical’ surveys, which involve the determination or depiction of property lines. [Emphasis added.]" (NCAC, Title 21, Chapter 56, Section 1603.) To me, it doesn't get any clearer than that, folks. The maps from my client depicted the property lines and how physical objects are related to them.

Let's review the situation for a second and see how allowing unlicensed persons to create these plats will hurt the public and give surveyors a black eye.

A person wants to build a new home on his property, which was subdivided in 1973. He goes down to the local building (or health) department, and they create a plat for him showing the perimeter with bearings and distances and ties from the proposed buildings, well, etc., to the property line. Or perhaps a licensed professional (landscape architect, engineer, soil scientist, etc.) looks up the subdivision plat and sketches the boundary onto a plat for the client. Both situations are equally fraught with danger. The landowner expects that all this information is correct and that he can place his house as shown on the plat. But how can he? This map is a fraud. The boundary has not been retraced or even remarked in over 25 years.

There is no way for the homeowner to follow the measurements on the plat as they are fictitious. Has anyone looked to see if any easements exist on the property? What about unwritten rights? How can you measure a setback from a point that is not marked on the ground? A surveyor has not visited the site since at least 1973. Maybe the GIS technician showed him his property corners?

It's the job of every surveying professional to protect the public first. Yet, in the simplest of situations, we have failed to be the guardians we have promised to be. We have failed because we ourselves are often uneducated about the laws of our profession.

Turning a blind eye to unlicensed practice not only takes money out of your pocket-it damages the image of the profession as a whole. Non-professionals rarely care what their crews look like in the field, nor do they worry about the image of the profession. Their sole purpose is to make money. While there is certainly nothing wrong with making a buck, professionals are held to a higher standard.

The general public sees anyone who holds a rod or looks through a level as a surveyor, regardless of their professional status. I see contractors’ claims that "the surveyor" made a mistake or set a stake wrong, only to find out that the "surveyor" was not licensed and did not work for a survey firm at all. In short, we are getting a bad reputation because of unlicensed, poorly trained individuals who can barely run a data collector. These are not surveyors, and they are certainly not professionals.

How do we resolve this issue? The first step is to aggressively support the existing rules and laws that pertain to surveying in each state. If you are aware of possible unlicensed practice, turn that individual in to the proper authorities. Most states require licensed professionals to report violations of the licensing acts to the respective professional board. Even if your state does not require this, professional ethics dictate that you take action. Many surveyors believe that their individual state boards won't or can't do anything about unlicensed practice. However, this is often a self-fulfilling prophecy-the board certainly cannot and will not act if you do nothing.

The next step is to support and suggest laws that strengthen the profession. For instance, we do not currently have a mandatory filing law in North Carolina, but I fully support one. We also lack a law requiring pins to be capped, and I support that practice, as well. Unlicensed and substandard practitioners will find it more difficult to operate in an environment where maps have to be filed and corners must have license numbers on them. I also support a law requiring all surveys be tied to NAD 83 (NSRS). Right now, the law in North Carolina only requires surveys within 2,000 feet of a monument to be tied into the grid. With the implementation of a statewide CORS and the NC VRS network, the rule should be expanded to all surveys.

With today’s technology, implementing these requirements is simple, and the benefits to the public are immense. Part of being a professional requires a stewardship of the profession, and we must all do our part. Let's all work together to regain the public trust.


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Note: The ideas and opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of POB. Neither the author nor POB intend this article to be a source of legal advice.


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Unlicensed practice

John Francis
March 3, 2009
I made a rather lengthy comment about this and entered my "code" to post my reply but got a message that an "error" occurred. Anyway, the gist of my opinion was that it's hard to explain how the public interest is being protected when an unlicensed person sometimes gives a better service than a licensed person . . . especially when the lay-person recognizes it.

Unlicensed Practice

Matthew Jennings
March 3, 2009
The problem is two fold. One is that the boards really have no enforceable option against unlicensed persons. That means the technician with no license can and does get away scott free. We have seen this time and again. The boards do not even investigate them because it is too much trouble. I have made complaints and they get ignored. The second part of the problem is those people with licenses in other fields that work alongside our own. Architects, soil scientists, civil engineers, etc. think that it is allowable for them to make boundary determinations because they need it for their work. And the surveyors do nothing. Point out it is a violation and they say it is no big deal. We are losing our profession because nobody wants to fight to keep it ours.

Unlicensed practice

Richard Schaut
March 3, 2009
Our service is not just mapping the property based on the record description. Once we realize that the record description is not the controlling factor and provide either the assurance that the record is accurate or the means to correct those records that are inaccurate, third parties who need assurance that the record is accurate will require the surveyor's services. These include municipal permit services, mortgage lenders, adjoiners, etc. We are much more that mappers and requiring land owners to hire surveyor when only a site plan is required is too close to the fallacy that one must hire a lawyer whenever they need to deal with legal matters.

Agreement

Don Poole
March 3, 2009
I am in agreement with Cliff Wagner. Our BOR in MA is very responsive to complaints so that is not an issue. Part of our licensing states that part of the purpose of requiring licensure is to protect the health and welfare of the public. If we as Professionals permit unlicensed activity or substandard activity, then we are upholding the requuirements of ourl icense unless we inform the BOR. We do not have mandatory monumenting or recoridng, except for divisions of land, in MA. I am in favor of requiring that a plan be recorded for any survey that results in points being set in the ground. We have to many monuments set that do not have a history on record. These monuments then have to assume a lesser importance than if a plan was recorded that showed where the monuments came from and who set them. Dtp

Unlicensed Practice

Ric Moore
March 3, 2009
In California (as well as other states), unlicensed practice is a major economic issue and damaging to the profession and the public. The Board does agressively pursue inquiries and complaints against unlicensed practice. However, most Land Surveyors do not realize that in this regard, the involvement of the Attorney General, local District Attorney AND the local practicing professionals are very vital to successfully addressing these issues. Sometimes, it is just a matter of education that the Board and the local professionals can employ to change the level of unlicensed practice. While it has taken some time, our efforts have resulted in instances where the violator(s) were "shown the light" and rectified their activities and others have received some very sizeable citations. Many times the same Land Surveyors that do not wish to "police" their own profession are also the individuals who refuse to "police" the unlicensed practice as well. Which is a stance that is completely contridictory to their position and the profession. I believe Mr. Wagner has expressed some very pertinent observations that I suggest many Land Surveyors should read and consider. Staff Land Surveyor Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors, California

unlicensed practice

Brian Portwood
March 3, 2009
Unfortunately, the fundamental problem, and the reason that unlicensed practice has never been stamped out, is that when surveyors take action against it, it appears to the public that they are acting only in their own self interest, motivated only by the apparent encroachment on their income stream, and not by the idea that eradicating unlicensed surveys protects the public, since the public is simply incapable of distinguishing the difference between a legitimate survey document and a worthless one.

unlicensed practice

glen aalbers
March 4, 2009
I have yet to see any non-licensed individual who "practices" surveying be sued, wrong word but it should work,by the State of California for not being licensed. They license us here in California so that the public can be protected from the licensed surveyors. After all we have something to lose (our license) if we perform an erroneous survey, write an incorrect legal description, or mis-stake property lines for building layouts, etc. The non-licensed individual just moves on to the next job. So all of us licensed surveyors continue to report non-licensed activity, what will happen then? Probably nothing. I am trying to keep this from becoming a negative, sarcastic response, but it is difficult.

unliocensed practice??

Tom Thomson
March 4, 2009
I am a licensed Prof Soil Scientist and I use GPS in my work to lay out the delineation lines of the soil survey. Often, I will map those lines over a boundary map of an individual farmers property in order to determine where different soils lie on the land. I consider this mapping and part of my job. However, I am careful to not map any property lines or corners, and detail to the client that I am only mapping features in the property NOT the boundaries of the property. Hopefully most PLS would not consider this infringement.

Unlicensed Practice

Stuart
March 4, 2009
The reason that the public cannot distinguish between a poor survey and a good one is because surveyors, as a group, have done a poor job of promoting and explaining our practice. It seems that every year our professional association talks and makes plans about how we can get the word out by writing articles and providing qualified individuals to speak at other groups' meetings (Realtors, Kiwanis, Chamber of Commerce, etc.) but we never follow through.

Maryland

Ray
March 4, 2009
In the case of Maryland, professionals who practice for a governmental agency are not required to be licensed. We see similar circumstances all the time. People understand how to use GPS and survey equipment, yet they do not understand surveying.

Comments

Cliff Wagner
March 4, 2009
Lots of good comments folks. I would like to say that I think most state boards do an excellent job and do take complaints of unlicensed practice seriously. If you feel your board is not being proactive I would suggest writing them and asking what you can do to help. Ask if the current legislation is strong enough and if they have the money to adequately investigate. If the answer is no, perhaps you can write your legislators. If we are unwilling to take action, we all suffer.

Sorry Bud, GIS Rules

David
March 5, 2009
Sorry you feel that way, but simple GIS makes the product everyone wants, but we couldn't have done it without a surveyor trying to do his best in 1974...

Unlicensed Practice

Jim
March 6, 2009
There has been two recent cases in Minnesota where the board has taken enforcement action for not being licensed. Check them out on the MN AELSLAGID web-site. Click on enforcement actions and look for The Locating Company and Nolte, Chad. www.aelslagid.state.mn.us/enf.html

Unlicensed Practice

Jeremy
March 25, 2009
Sorry Mr. Thompson, but I would consider your practice of using GPS to locate delineation flags to be unlicensed activity. I think the problem today is that everyone believes GPS is the end all to everything, and it's not. Here in Florida, if you locate anything and put it on a map, it's technically considered under the wide scope of surveying and mapping. How do you know for sure that your survey is Geo-referenced? What map are you placing the locations of the delineation flags on? I would have serious issues with someone placing the locations of flags on a survey that had my name on it. If those flags are located incorrectly on the map, the public goes after the person who has their name on the map, which would be me. I'm certainly not as concerned about soil issues, but here we have major issues with wetlands. That can be some major liability on us if somebody else locates them incorrectly.

unliocensed practice??

jake
April 2, 2009
Mr. Thompson You are probably not guilty of unlicensed practice, but its impossible to say without a more detailed description of what your maps are depicting and knowledge of the regulations in the state you are practicing. We have to draw the line somewhere or we'll be going after every one who marks a location in Google maps.

Like it or not

Wil Kottler
April 4, 2009
That's the system. Owners get permits and decide corner locations without a surveyor all the time. As licensed professional, if we truly are concerned about the public, we would work to improve on this system. I look forward to the day where Joe Public can look up his coordinates on their county GIS, plug them into their hand held sub-foot GPS (BTW - which are getting cheaper and cheaper), and find their corner themselves. A line to my outside spiquot busted this last winter, and I will fix it myself, but somehow plumbers are not obsolete. There are bigger fish to fry, and this argument always makes us looking to the ref for a flag when no penalty has occurred. Sure, there are problems, but not enough to make this a concern. Marketing is all about finding needs, this ain't one of them, whether you like it, or not.

Unlicensed Practice

Ric Moore
April 4, 2009
Mr. Aalbers, Have you ever had a chance to view the posted actions under the CA Board's web site? http://www.pels.ca.gov/consumers/citeunlic.shtml This list represents closed cases as of June, 2007. And does include a few involving land surveying. I would expect more to be listed in the future. While it can be difficult to achieve, it can be done. Ric

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