Surveying Business owned by other than Surveyor

Posted by: Henry Purvis

I recently ran across a scenario where a surveyor has used his wife as CEO and Partner in the LLC they created for his surveying business. Then they turn around and advertise it as a "woman owned business" and probably received grants...etc. for being a minority business. Is this LEGAL?

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is it legal? No!

DBE owner
October 17, 2012
the person owning the company must control it. A non-licensed person cannot control it, therefore it is illegal. Here is another example of a white man, who already gets 99% of the surveying work in this country, now trying to steal the last 1% from legitimate DBE's. Affirmative action is still needed; the only corruption in the program is white men who are lying and cheating. This is a good example, the playing field is not level when the white man wants 100% of the work.

is it legal? No!

DBE owner
October 17, 2012
the person owning the company must control it. A non-licensed person cannot control it, therefore it is illegal. Here is another example of a white man, who already gets 99% of the surveying work in this country, now trying to steal the last 1% from legitimate DBE's. Affirmative action is still needed; the only corruption in the program is white men who are lying and cheating. This is a good example, the playing field is not level when the white man wants 100% of the work.

is it legal? No!

DBE owner
October 17, 2012
the person owning the company must control it. A non-licensed person cannot control it, therefore it is illegal. Here is another example of a white man, who already gets 99% of the surveying work in this country, now trying to steal the last 1% from legitimate DBE's. Affirmative action is still needed; the only corruption in the program is white men who are lying and cheating. This is a good example, the playing field is not level when the white man wants 100% of the work.

Is it legal

White Man
October 17, 2012
I am the white man who owns a small surveyin/engineering company and I can not get any municiple work because I am just that, a white man. My local competition is an Indian owned engineering firm of over 100 employees, and a latino owned engineering firm with about 25 employees. While I am all in favor of helping a minority staring out, I am not in favor of giving benificial traetment to firms who's owners are making literally millions each year. Should there be a financial cap on DBE's?

Is it leagal

JGARON
October 17, 2012
We have many large engineering firms being awarded governmental projects that require them to use certain percentages of MBE/WBE firms as subconsultants. In our area there are many MBE/WBE land surveying firms who get virtually all of the surveying portions of these projects and by my account they are doing very well. Land surveying is a profession and we should all do what we can to promote our professionalism. Being a professional in our field no one should need and advantage to obtain work. Your professional ability should stand on it's own merit and work should be awarded to you based on your abilities and expertise. Furthermore, no land surveying firm should be owned and/or controlled by anyone who is not a land surveyor. Lawyers own law firms, engineers own engineering firms and land surveyors should own land surveying firms.

working man

Employee
October 17, 2012
Does the business do anything other than Surveying? I am employed as Surveyor at a place which survey is a small percentage of work. They are paying for my ability to sign and seal a survey. I control the survey but not the organization.

working man

Employee
October 17, 2012
Does the business do anything other than Surveying? I am employed as Surveyor at a place which survey is a small percentage of work. They are paying for my ability to sign and seal a survey. I control the survey but not the organization.

working man

Employee
October 17, 2012
Does the business do anything other than Surveying? I am employed as Surveyor at a place which survey is a small percentage of work. They are paying for my ability to sign and seal a survey. I control the survey but not the organization.

working man

Employee
October 17, 2012
Does the business do anything other than Surveying? I am employed as Surveyor at a place which survey is a small percentage of work. They are paying for my ability to sign and seal a survey. I control the survey but not the organization.

Ownership

Calli
October 17, 2012
I know a lot of surveyors who are great at surveying, but terrible at business, so they would benefit greatly from having someone run the company who had a business mind and letting the surveyor focus on what they do best, so I would tend to say it could go either way.

business owned by other than surveyor

pat
December 19, 2012
Some state require the business to be owned by a surveyor - unfortunately some don't. GA and NC - yes NC - are 2 that don't.

affirmative action abused in washington state....

another white surveyor
January 6, 2013
im all for equal oportunity but how equal is it when a minority owned survey company is awarded a large project such as seattles viaduct and seattle city lights transmission line project and they charged the contractor $3000.00 a square foot!!! the project was 3200 feet long...do the math...they sat aside 4 million dollars for AS-Builting and the minority owned survey outfit billed out at 9 million? is this excessive billing or out-right abuse of affirmative action or a SEVERE waste of taxpayers money. To make matters even worse word in the grapevine is that all asbuilting was done with NO COGO OVERLAY in AUTOCAD LT with less than prevailing wages paid to some employees.

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